tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post2750617828301265147..comments2023-09-24T08:05:04.868-04:00Comments on The Pilgrim Underground: A Very Confused MarineProtoprotestanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18217567607160768261noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-34501927189078973042017-06-30T08:23:52.626-04:002017-06-30T08:23:52.626-04:00Well, considering it's a TGC article, I expect...Well, considering it's a TGC article, I expect some padding about Reformed in-roads. The article concludes with Reformed theology's still limited impact in terms of numbers and the fact that the greatest church/institutional proponent of Reformed theology is in the midst of possible corruption scandals. If anything, this sort of theology will become popular with the TSM, maybe an Evangelical wing akin to the one in the COE during the 18th and 19th centuries. But I hope this sort of thing will dry up sooner than later, though cash-influx and the glittering gems of respectability can do devastating work.Cal of Chelcicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274276191242967318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-15130615171901251212017-06-29T23:24:28.986-04:002017-06-29T23:24:28.986-04:00From the Gospel Coalition article:
“It deals with ...From the Gospel Coalition article:<br />“It deals with the relationship between church and state, and between church and society,” Fulton said. “Both of those are burning questions in the mind of intellectual Christians in China.”<br /><br />This line haunts me--proto<br /><br />Chinese church leaders are writing books of church order.<br /><br />This line makes me want to weep.—proto<br /><br />Ministries like John Piper’s Desiring God, Mark Dever’s 9Marks, and Tim Keller’s City to City releasedChinese versions of their websites.<br /><br /><br />I am groaning—proto<br /><br />Again like I mentioned in my recent Princeton piece, this article hits me hard... how much I've changed. If I read this in 1995 I would have rejoiced. Today my feelings and response are quite different.<br />Protoprotestanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217567607160768261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-16750609976908656002017-06-28T19:50:32.366-04:002017-06-28T19:50:32.366-04:00Ok, thanks!Ok, thanks!Karlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-84924481924067008842017-06-28T19:00:52.513-04:002017-06-28T19:00:52.513-04:00That piece of info about a "messy Bible"...That piece of info about a "messy Bible" was shared by a friend was word of mouth. But Westminster is part of a general push by Reformed seminaries to translate classic Reformed texts and popular contemporary work (e.g. Piper, Keller, Carson, et al.) into Chinese, and help bring Reformed theology into Chinese seminaries. There's a pretty good article about happenings is here: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/young-restless-and-reformed-in-chinaCal of Chelcicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274276191242967318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-22773567491726549842017-06-25T20:03:14.160-04:002017-06-25T20:03:14.160-04:00Is there someplace I can read about what you'r...Is there someplace I can read about what you're saying about Wesminster and China? I'd like to check that out.Karlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319172106392132510.post-81673426180659747042017-06-25T19:21:27.804-04:002017-06-25T19:21:27.804-04:00Regarding your Princeton piece:
I thought your co...Regarding your Princeton piece:<br /><br />I thought your comments about Westminster were fitting. A couple of friends went there and they've been frustrated with the sacking of Doug Green. I may disagree with his Christotelic interpretation, but it was not out of line. But the real reason for his sacking was that wealthy donors did not like it and pulled the necessary strings. In addition, Westminster is a part of the push to inject Reformed theology into China, and accordingly they don't want a "messy Bible", which seemed like an attempt to straightjacket theology. Anyway, it really is all about power, and may God save China from such Reformed theologians!Cal of Chelcicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274276191242967318noreply@blogger.com