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Matt Slick antedates the rise of New Calvinism – I remember
him from the 1990's, but in many respects he's one of several figures that
anticipated the movement and even now can and should be identified as a member
of that camp.
More an Evangelical in style and substance than any kind of
Confessional Calvinist, Slick in many respects represents a now dominant form
of Calvinism, and yet as this episode (5 Oct 2022) suggests – one has to wonder
how much the historical nomenclature even applies.
After a tedious intro, at about the 4 minute mark Slick
responds to 'hate mail' and arguing against a Roman Catholic view of the
Eucharist which insists on a kind of literal reading of 'This is my body'.
Slick falls into Baptistic patterns of appealing to metaphors. Christ was a
door and so forth and thus the Supper must be interpreted in a similar fashion.
While transubstantiation must certainly be rejected, Slick's
views don't conform to historical or confessional norms concerning the Supper.
It's not a pure metaphor or symbol. Paul refers to the Israelites as partaking of
the same spiritual food and drink,
the cup is called a cup of blessing,
and indeed abusers of the Supper were said to experience death as a form of
judgment. Needless to say Slick would reject any application of John 6 to the
discussion which happens to be one of the most doctrinally rich passages in the
New Testament.
At the very least one would expect a 'Calvinist' to hold to a
view that incorporated the conveyance of grace or a subjective 'spiritual'
presence, even though a much stronger case can be made for an objective
presence sans actual
transubstantiation and the entire sacrificial theology implied by the mass –
not to mention the Aristotelian categories utilised to explain the phenomenon.
Slick's answer is standard Evangelical and Baptist. There's
nothing Calvinistic about it. His appeal to Leviticus is frankly ridiculous and
possibly sacrilegious.
I appreciate his wholesale condemnation of Rome but not on
the basis of a Baptistic-Evangelical reading of Scripture – which on many
points actually represents an unhelpful departure from Scripture.
While all Christians believe in the exclusivity of Christ's
claims regarding redemption and salvation, I found Slick's answer in the next
segment wanting and representative of his impoverished rationalistic apologetic.
A Buddhist could answer his statements regarding the Trinity as well as
question the precisionist nature of his statements vis-à-vis what is revealed
in Scripture. And if he were more informed, he could question Slick's
statements vis-à-vis historical theology as these terms have to be defined and
the truth is that the definitions remain somewhat fuzzy and the divergent
parties never fully agreed on their meaning – let alone the problems of a Sola
Scriptura construct appealing arbitrarily to the rulings of Church Councils,
even while rejecting their wider context of theological jurisprudence.
Some appeal to the fiction of pure logic which doesn't answer
the Buddhist who can also entertain trinitarian metaphysics. The answer is
found not in rationalist constructs but in revelation and the foolishness of
preaching. I'm afraid many apologetics ministries are woefully misguided in
what they attempt to do and CARM is one of them.
At the 14:33 mark Slick entertains a question regarding the
use of incense. I found this response to be telling and even somewhat shocking.
Slick doesn't have any problem with it because it's in the
Bible.
Simple enough right? No, instead this demonstrates a rather impoverished
understanding of Redemptive-History and the nature of Biblical structure. Would
he say the same about animal sacrifices? How about the Passover? How about
circumcision? He would balk at the latter – but only because the New Testament
explicitly rejects it. Apparently his prooftexting-rationalist approach is
incapable of following the flow, themes, and development of Scripture in terms
of typology and fulfillment. This question is minor but very illuminating with
regard to the totality of his thought. It's more of a Fundamentalism stripped
of Dispensational Theology than anything remotely connected to historic
Calvinist or Reformed doctrine. He apparently is unfamiliar with the
redemptive-historical underpinnings of the Regulative Principle or more likely
(based on other comments in other episodes) he heartily rejects it. But this is
the alternative? I'm afraid my teenage daughter could give a more capable and
Biblical answer to the question of incense in New Testament worship than Slick
can. It was a really shocking response I thought – a real display of Biblical
incompetence. As I've taught my children from a very early age, the
relationship between the Old and New Testaments is one of the most critical
questions to Biblical interpretation. You get that wrong and you go astray.
Slick's answer is (ironically) more compatible with Roman Catholicism than
historic Protestantism and it demonstrates that this most basic and fundamental
problem within theology is one he doesn't understand. And based on his response
– I question if he's even wrestled with the issue or is aware of it!
We do not utilize incense in New Testament worship. If Slick
bothered to read and understand the book of Hebrews (for a start) he would
understand this. This already bad question-answer segment is supplemented at
26:00 by a follow-up that at best only confounds and confuses the issue.
Word study is helpful to be sure but one can miss the forest
for the trees. I encounter many people who narrowly focus on verses and yet
fail to understand the flow, argument, and structure of books – let alone how
they relate to one another, the different nature of books, and so forth. A
prooftext word-study style theology can glean some truth to be sure but it can
also lead people into briars and thorns. I know many people who follow Bible
reading plans but still never interact with the text and take the time to work
through the arguments and as such their employment of isolated texts is often
well intentioned but misinformed, sometimes woefully so.
His response to Halloween at 19:15 was also wanting – a case
of non sequitir. It's one thing to eat Halloween candy (which I certainly
enjoy). It's something else to go and participate in the rites – even if they
have degenerated into parody as was often the case with cultural religious
practice in the Hellenistic context of the New Testament. But this cultural
degeneration didn't somehow render these questions as inconsequential.
Why is the demonic costuming a problem but the notion of All
Hallow's Eve isn't? It sounds to me as if Slick just likes it and wants to
justify it. The Christian calendar argument fails, but the Samhain argument is
plausible, and the Church would make a far more potent testimony if it stood
against this practice in toto. I had to laugh when he made the appeal to the
Christmas tree at 22:10. He thinks he made a point but in fact he just further
condemns his already compromised views and reasoning.
The only question I thought he handled aptly was the next
segment concerning the Virgin Birth and the cringe-worthy attempt by the caller
to pry into the specific mechanics of the event. It was the only high point in
the entire one hour show.
I felt badly for the confused woman who called in at 30:00,
but I found Slick's response to be even worse and more confused than the
woman's stumbling over the term 'darling'. His use of translations was reckless
and it needs to be stated once again – context determines meaning, and the
translators were trying to demonstrate an implied concept. Slick's views of
Scripture are neither Confessional nor conservative though I'm sure he would be
shocked at such a statement. And while the Scofield Bible is certainly lacking,
I would not recommend the Geneva Bible to anyone either.
It must be said this is a strange kind of Calvinism – a
creature that began to emerge in the 1990's and now dominates, but it's not the
Calvinism of Spurgeon, the Puritans, or Calvin. But more importantly it
represents a significant and at times perilous departure from the New Testament.
This is not to say that historic Calvinism is the Christianity of the New
Testament. By no means, but in many respects it is closer than what we find in
the Evangelical sphere.
The show took an especially dark turn at the 42 minute mark
as Slick started in on politics. Let's just say that I was already less than
impressed with his theological aptitude but his understanding of politics and
political history put his ignorance on full display.
Apparently Slick thinks that Tucker Carlson is a good source
of information which again demonstrates his own lack of discernment and
foolishness. His real epistemological authority is revealed as not being Sola
Scriptura but a hybrid-something I increasingly refer to as BibleFOX.
Is Biden corrupt? Of course he is. But Trump isn't? Lindsey
Graham? Kevin McCarthy? And this one I can't even say with a straight face –
Mitch McConnell? What about the Bush family? No corruption there, right?
What exactly is his point?
Is the news media corrupt? Of course. They cover-up lots of
things –usually by omission. The list is long and bipartisan. We could also
refer to the many false exposés which often serve to muddy waters and obscure
the actual crimes.
I literally burst out laughing (as did everyone else in the
car) when he started in on 'this is the technique of communism'. He played his
hand. He's a clown and doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just
repeating the same old lame talking points of the John Birch Society and the
GOP that they've been using since the days of that old Red Baiting would-be
inquisitor Joe McCarthy.
The tactics he refers to have been employed by Republicans
and while CNN and the other mainstream outlets are more infotainment jokes than
anything else – FOX is actively involved in mis- and disinformation. CNN, NPR,
and other outlets do lie at times but more often than not it's the omissions
and the framing of stories that is deceptive. FOX out and out lies and on a
massive scale.
The schools are producing 'socialist communist thinking
people' but it was okay when they taught unquestioned nationalist obedience to
the flag and a willingness to go and die and kill for it. Oh wait, they still
teach that in addition to all the other individualist psychological filth that
dominates them. It's a filth by the way that the Evangelical community has
largely embraced in premise but to a lesser degree. Few understand this and
this is why when I listen to Christian radio I'm often left shaking my head as
the various commentators, activists, and supposed teachers are often treating spiritual
cancer with a tool akin to cough syrup and bandages. The confused thinking of
Evangelicals regarding this society let alone the Christian's relationship to
the world (and its states) is on full display with Matt Slick – and his
confused pronouns.
No, Mr. Slick you may be a theologian (so you claim) but you
could not out-debate these political leaders. There is an answer to atheist
incoherence with regard to morality but I didn't hear it here. And as you
demonstrate in your final statements – you are incompetent to debate even
someone who has taken an entry level US Government class or read an American
political science textbook. You don't know what you're talking about. This is
not to say the Democrats are right because they're not – but neither are you.
It is abundantly clear to me that Slick fails to understand
even the basics of the US system and the corruption and deceit at work within
both parties – not to mention the monied interests that drive the whole system
and its imperial framework. Everything he says about the Democrats in the
realms of truth, morality, and corruption could be equally applied to the GOP.
What a con-job! The corrupt leaders of the Christian Right have convinced their
flocks that the Republican Party stands for morality simply because they pay
lip service on a few pet issues – never mind the host of ideological
contradictions that exist at the heart of the party's claims.
Slick apparently is so ignorant of American history that he
simply plays the FOX line regarding the Democrats and the history of Slavery, Jim
Crow, racism and the KKK. He doesn't realize that nearly all the Segregationist
politicians that survived the Civil Rights era had by the 1980's ended up in
the GOP. It was a process that began in earnest under Nixon as he sought to
exploit White Southern Democratic disgust with the integrationist Civil Rights
policies of Johnson. In the post- Civil War South, the conservatives and the
political Right were found in the Democratic Party. The parties re-aligned in
the post-WWII context, and by the end of the 1970's this process was more or
less complete. It also afforded the Evangelical community a new opportunity.
The so-called Christian vote could finally be unified – consolidated in one
party – the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan. Slick apparently is unfamiliar
with these basic broad strokes of US political history. He doesn't understand
it, let alone what terms like Socialism and Communism mean – ideas which have
no place in the Democratic Party. Sanders and AOC are not socialists by any
stretch of the imagination. Like many within the modern Republican Party, he
seems oblivious to the Right's embrace of the ethics and sociology that lead to
abortion – not to mention its robust embrace of censorship and its hypocrisy
with regard to the Constitution and the (admittedly defective) ideology of the
American Founding.
The Democrats (what he calls the Left) are evil and no
Christian should vote for them. But if he can't say the same about the
Republicans then he is no guide and has no standing. The Republican Party and
its policies have played an equally potent role in the destruction of the
family and in the promotion of social decadence. If he can't see that, perhaps
he should turn off Tucker and do a little more reading and reflecting of not
just some political and cultural history, but his Bible. He can doubt the
salvation of others who aren't Republican but I have little doubt that Slick is
a fool and his programme is ridiculous. I was left genuinely embarrassed for
him.
See also:
https://pilgrimunderground.blogspot.com/2014/01/empirical-theology-road-into-darkness.html
https://pilgrimunderground.blogspot.com/2021/11/justified-cynicism-regarding-gops-2021.html
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